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FTL
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 Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| I'm not blaming PA for everything. But sound lags or no sound at all in non-PA native apps is still rather common problem. In my case, I just load oss modules with no PA and OSS apps behave perfectly. So, I'm not forcing you into anything of course, just putting my opinion on the table. |
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Hamish
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| Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:26 am Post subject: |
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I know you were not trying to force me to do anything.
That was mainly a response to all these people on the Phoronix forum basically saying that "because PulseAudio exists, Linux can not play games". Which gets REALLY, really old...
I may experiment your suggestion at some point, not due to lags, but to see if it helps OSS programs behave any better. On Fedora 10 everything was fine. Every release before and after OSS has always been a thorn in my side.
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Hamish
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| Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:07 am Post subject: |
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Well, I did as you suggested with no change, so the problem has to be with OSS and not PulseAudio.
This is on Fedora 13 by the way, it acts exactly the same as 12 did when it comes to the installers.
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kingron
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| Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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well i don't know much about fedora but we can try to figure out why your sound isn't working... as root:
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# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82X38/X48 Express DRAM Controller (rev 01)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82X38/X48 Express Host-Primary PCI Express Bridge (rev 01)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 02)
00:1a.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 (rev 02)
00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 92)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801IR (ICH9R) LPC Interface Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801IR/IO/IH (ICH9R/DO/DH) 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce 9800 GTX] (rev a2)
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 12)
03:00.0 Audio device: Creative Labs X-Fi Titanium series [EMU20k2] (rev 03) |
you should see something like "Audio device" ...
what gives your
(save it as file ...) |
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Hamish
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:44 am Post subject: |
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Following several different guides, I changed the error message given by SiN.
To get OSS working at all, I put in these commands as root.
| Code: | /sbin/modprobe snd_pcm_oss
chmod 777 /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss |
Then to try and get sounds working in SiN:
| Code: | cd /media/External1/hamish/games/sin-demo
echo "sin-demo 0 0 disable" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/oss
echo "sin-demo 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
./sin-demo +set s_driver oss |
I still do not get sound, but I do receive a different error:
| Code: | ------- sound initialization -------
Could not mmap sound device |
These commands did manage to get lag-less sound in the Shogo demo:
| Code: | cd /media/External1/hamish/games/shogo-demo
echo shogo 0 0 direct > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
./shogo |
However, I should point out that I do not have to do this to get Sound working when using Hyperion's default installer for the full-version. It works out of the box. And still no music. 
Ah well, I appreciate the effort that has gone into these already. Especially with SiN, even with no sound it is still running better than it ever did before on Fedora.
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Jusko
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| Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Yay - works out of the box  Do something like that for full version and it will be great
Tests are made on Fedora 13. |
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Hamish
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:02 am Post subject: |
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Well, I finally got SiN's audio working.
| Code: | [hamish@griffindor ~]$ cd /media/External1/hamish/games/sin-demo
[hamish@griffindor sin-demo]$ su
Password:
[root@griffindor sin-demo]# modprobe snd-pcm-oss
[root@griffindor sin-demo]# modprobe snd-mixer-oss
[root@griffindor sin-demo]# /sbin/modprobe snd_pcm_oss
[root@griffindor sin-demo]# chmod 777 /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[root@griffindor sin-demo]# echo "sin-demo.x86 0 0 disable" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/oss
[root@griffindor sin-demo]# echo "sin-demo.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[root@griffindor sin-demo]# su hamish
[hamish@griffindor sin-demo]$ ./sin-demo.x86 +set s_driver oss
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Now lets explain this shall we. First I had to cd to my SiN directory and gain root privileges:
| Code: | [hamish@griffindor ~]$ cd /media/External1/hamish/games/sin-demo
[hamish@griffindor sin-demo]$ su
Password:
[root@griffindor sin-demo]# |
Next I get OSS working system-wide (and thus also allow the Shogo demo to work):
| Code: | [root@griffindor sin-demo]# modprobe snd-pcm-oss
[root@griffindor sin-demo]# modprobe snd-mixer-oss
[root@griffindor sin-demo]# /sbin/modprobe snd_pcm_oss
[root@griffindor sin-demo]# chmod 777 /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss |
Then I get SiN's sounds working:
| Code: | [root@griffindor sin-demo]# echo "sin-demo.x86 0 0 disable" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/oss
[root@griffindor sin-demo]# echo "sin-demo.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss |
After that, I return to my account and run the game:
| Code: | [root@griffindor sin-demo]# su hamish
[hamish@griffindor sin-demo]$ ./sin-demo.x86 +set s_driver oss |
Well, that was easy... 
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kingron
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| Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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well done  |
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Jusko
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:47 am Post subject: |
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| OK, but demo is only demo. Is there any chance for automated installer (like for demo) for full version? I've copied files from CD (yes, from native SiN, not Windows version) to installed demo, but game won't run. |
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